for a long time al-zarqawi was in the news regarding a string of major terrorist attacks in iraq... the us even put a $25 million dollar reward on his head.
for the last month or so i have not heard peep about him.
was he killed or captured and i did not see it in the news?.
How can we be sure he was not an invention of the news media? I think there is more than just al-Zarqawi causing problems in Iraq. Also I wouldn't be surprised if there is a terrorist attack planned for the Olympic games. I am surprised it has been fairly quiet so far, with no major inccidents. Terrorists will hit when we least expect them to, the calm before the storm.
Will
i resisted it for years.
i was dragged kicking and screaming into the evolution theory camp.. i would rather have had my arm lopped off at the elbow;but, facts are facts.
i had to be intellectually honest.
Interesting subject. I have had some discussions about this very subject with my nephew and my conclusions are, I do not believe everything that science says because it is science. Science is based on observation, experimentation and research. It is based on theories started by scientific hypothesis. In the course of time some of these theories or hypothesis may prove to be true or false. Like evolution, it is not written in stone but if over time some of the theories are proved to be wrong, the scientists correct their thinking. This is why creationist are so quick to jump on and say science is all wrong because they have been proven wrong but at least science is open to correction unlike creationists that is followed unquestionably by blind faith.
Will
forgetful as i am, i just forgot the title of the new brochure issued at this summer's conventions, but it is something like "keep on the watch", and it deals with the imminent return of christ, the signs of our times, and the need for being on the watch, being prepared for the "any day now" return.. the signs of our times are mentioned, but not earthquakes, so they are "out" again, it seems.
but, the first pages make out the basis for the belief in our days being the last ones, the final ones, and 607 is mentioned, 539 and 537 - but not 1914, not the "seven times" or "2520 years".. do you remember 1995, when the "generation change" came?
in summer, the "knowledge" book was issued, and it also dealt with the signs etc., but for the first time, there was no mention of the then "present truth" that some alive in 1914 would still be alive and witness the return.
I don't know what year it was but I would think it was around the mid 90's. My nephew was telling me about the time after dinner his dad read the latest Watchtower to them explaining that the 1914 thing was changed. He said they were all upset and he said he told his dad that this was a bunch of crap because they had put all thier faith on that date. I was telling my nephew how it was the same thing in the early 70's and how the society didn't even have the guts to admit thier error and blame it all on the average JW that miss understood what they were saying.
Will
i remember once seeing an older watchtower publication, i believe it was a study book from the late '60s or early '70s, in which one illustration showed a city with large buildings in the background, all burning and in ruins.
in the foreground, a group of well-groomed jw's smile joyously and raise their arms in praise to jehovah, apparantly thanking him for destroying civilization, but at least allowing them to live.
the picture was a little unsettling at the time, and now with the threat of terrorism, even more so.. does anyone remember which publication this image was from?
The " From Paradise Lost To Paradise Regained" 1958 pages 208 & 209 book had some awful pictures of armaggeddon.
want one as a symbol of my freedom.
was thinking of some chinese characters.
ok. your opinion.
If you are asking what I would do, I wouldn't do it myself but tattoos are a personal thing, so it doesn't really matter what anyone else thinks. Just do it because you want it\ and don't do it for someone else. After being a Jdub for so many years I don't do anything to make others happy or to fit in with the group. I am not 14 years old and I do not let anyone else influence my decisions. After saying all that you choose what you want wisely because it will be with you for the rest of your life.
Will
as i wrote in jwd i sent my da letter and am now officially out.
since i have moved they have announced it in my current home congregation where nobody has ever heard of me.
but now i have been told that they usually inform the boe of all the congregations you have ever attended and those decide if they announce it there as well.. do you have any information on this?
What I was told and I got this information first hand, is that the hall that DF's you is the one that has to reinstate you. This along with the earlier comments in this post seems to make sense. That each congregation, for legal purposes, is responsible for the members of its congregation. So technically you are only DF'd in that congregation, not by the whole organization.
Will
hi folks.. i have been lurking on and off for about 2 years now and before i did post a couple threads under my old alias but it wont accept it for some reason so i had to re-join.. anyway there was a singles site called jwsingles.net by a nice fellow who wanted to help other lonely jw single folks meet but he is about to shut it down despite some success stories which i guess makes the elders upset.. i had joined two years ago and was on the mailing list(i,ve been inactive for about 5 years now)thats the short version,anyway,i got this e-mail from him the other day and it really infuriated me because he did nothing wrong but again the organization wants to control every aspect of their lives,including not letting jw,s put up harmless websites for singles to meet.after all in many many congregations there is a severe shortage of available singles right?and,if they dont even want you to look for a mate in their own organization (on the net) then they will look outside of the organization but i guess they are too dense to understand that.. his letter wreaks of guilt and he hangs his head in shame at congregations.i fail to see how he has stumbled others here.its none of others business what adult jw,s want to meet someone.. i understand the heartache of being all alone for many many years with no one and no suitable mates there as they were too stuffy and i felt like i could never match up no matter how hard i tried.i shed too many tears to count as im sure many here have as well.. anyway here is the e-mail.. greetings friends.. this will most likely be the last message you recieve from jw singles.net.. the site has been running for several years now with its main goal to help those of like faith find and if they wish contact each other.we,ve met that goal with several success stories.im very glad to say that an old friend of mine from a congregation in maryland met a wonderful sister from california.after months of phone calls and trips and bible studies over the phone,they were married.both are extremely happy with their new mates.. there are other stories the friends have shared when asking to have their profiles removed.. however i cannot continue to justify the site against the councel of the wbt society.i am tired of sinking in my seat at assemblies and conventions when they mention websites to avoid.it is also not my place to second guess the faithful and discreet salve and the connection they have with jehovahs spirit in guiding the organization in these last days.while i believe that with proper theocratic guidelines this site can be used ,like many have demonstrated to a good cause,i will not possibly stumble my brothers and sisters.. i have thought of selling the site to help recoup the expenses i incurred while developing and running the site ,but again i dont want the responsibility of passing it off to someone else,possibly a wordly company or person.. after the last paying members subscription has run out,i will open the full site with access to every member .this will be the last chance to try and contact some of the 2000 members we have.right now im targeting september as the final month the site will run.our information on the site will be deleted as the database of users is erased.if you care to make a donation of any size while the site is still open to everyone our paypal address is _________ or contact me for a mailing address.. thanks to all those who have tried to help and build the idea i had into a functioning and useful program.i wish you all well and continued strenght in this time of the end.all of the friends are tired and are struggling just to make it to meetings instead of staying home with a headache or working a little late.be upbuilding to each other ,help to show love amongst ourselves and continue to walk with god until the end.. agape.
brian.
jw singles.net'.
Ann,
I agree fully with you. Seems like when I was a JW there were so many different clicks within the congregations. If you didn't fit in due to the fact that we weren't a good witness or were not in the same financial status as them then you were never ask out to group functions. To go out with anyone out side of having marriage proposal was a no no and associating with "worldly" ones was forbidden. It is tough and I think we have all been there.
Will
hi folks.. i have been lurking on and off for about 2 years now and before i did post a couple threads under my old alias but it wont accept it for some reason so i had to re-join.. anyway there was a singles site called jwsingles.net by a nice fellow who wanted to help other lonely jw single folks meet but he is about to shut it down despite some success stories which i guess makes the elders upset.. i had joined two years ago and was on the mailing list(i,ve been inactive for about 5 years now)thats the short version,anyway,i got this e-mail from him the other day and it really infuriated me because he did nothing wrong but again the organization wants to control every aspect of their lives,including not letting jw,s put up harmless websites for singles to meet.after all in many many congregations there is a severe shortage of available singles right?and,if they dont even want you to look for a mate in their own organization (on the net) then they will look outside of the organization but i guess they are too dense to understand that.. his letter wreaks of guilt and he hangs his head in shame at congregations.i fail to see how he has stumbled others here.its none of others business what adult jw,s want to meet someone.. i understand the heartache of being all alone for many many years with no one and no suitable mates there as they were too stuffy and i felt like i could never match up no matter how hard i tried.i shed too many tears to count as im sure many here have as well.. anyway here is the e-mail.. greetings friends.. this will most likely be the last message you recieve from jw singles.net.. the site has been running for several years now with its main goal to help those of like faith find and if they wish contact each other.we,ve met that goal with several success stories.im very glad to say that an old friend of mine from a congregation in maryland met a wonderful sister from california.after months of phone calls and trips and bible studies over the phone,they were married.both are extremely happy with their new mates.. there are other stories the friends have shared when asking to have their profiles removed.. however i cannot continue to justify the site against the councel of the wbt society.i am tired of sinking in my seat at assemblies and conventions when they mention websites to avoid.it is also not my place to second guess the faithful and discreet salve and the connection they have with jehovahs spirit in guiding the organization in these last days.while i believe that with proper theocratic guidelines this site can be used ,like many have demonstrated to a good cause,i will not possibly stumble my brothers and sisters.. i have thought of selling the site to help recoup the expenses i incurred while developing and running the site ,but again i dont want the responsibility of passing it off to someone else,possibly a wordly company or person.. after the last paying members subscription has run out,i will open the full site with access to every member .this will be the last chance to try and contact some of the 2000 members we have.right now im targeting september as the final month the site will run.our information on the site will be deleted as the database of users is erased.if you care to make a donation of any size while the site is still open to everyone our paypal address is _________ or contact me for a mailing address.. thanks to all those who have tried to help and build the idea i had into a functioning and useful program.i wish you all well and continued strenght in this time of the end.all of the friends are tired and are struggling just to make it to meetings instead of staying home with a headache or working a little late.be upbuilding to each other ,help to show love amongst ourselves and continue to walk with god until the end.. agape.
brian.
jw singles.net'.
The letter stated:
"However I cannot continue to justify the site against the councel control of the WBT society." Then the letter goes on to say how we are now in the time of the end ... blah blah blah... Now where have I heard this all before? The problem is this is counsel coming form a bunch of old men that have nothing else better to do with their lives and couldn't get laid if their life depended on it.
Anyway Ann all the best to you in your search for that right partner or firend. I know a few of us have been at it for a while.
Will
i just got word that protesters have been allowed on the "cow palace" convention center property (near san francisco) with a valid permit.
see the link below for a the happy jw news release on this convention.
http://www.sanmateocountytimes.com/stories/0,1413,87~11268~2309259,00.html
Hey where is all them good dubs?
yesterday i tuned into espn sports radio and listened to a semi-political debate on several issues.
when "same sex" marriage came up one of the talking heads refrained that "all marriages are same sex.
" you get married and have the "same sex" over and over again!
My stand is that it is not my life style but what one does in the privacy of his or her own bedroom, is none of anyones business. For all those "good Christians" out there that are so quick to judge, I tell them not to judge and if there is a God to leave it in his/her hands.
Will
